In Today's episode, Saul talks to Rachel S. Jordan on the intersection between trauma and end of life care. Rachel holds a B.S. in Bible/theology and Speech Communication from Multnomah University and an M.Div w/a Concentration in Hospital Chaplaincy from the Portland Seminary of George Fox University. In 2014 she became a neuro-trauma survivor and in 2021 she completed her Chaplain residency at the same medical center in which she was treated: Legacy Emanuel Medical Center, a level one trauma center in Portland, Oregon.